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I cant help but feel a bit on edge when a leader in the field such as Wilmott is willing to make such a provocative claim. I understand that he intended his statement as more of a generality rather than a fact, but its another blow to the legitimacy of the MFE brand and similar studies in a...

I suppose systems engineering can be considered more broad than most technical fields. But if you are serious about pursuing a degree in MFE you should look into courses that deal with Stochastic Processes, PDE, SDE and Numerical Analysis just to name a few. There are a few threads here that...

It's great that youre making plans ahead, but I gotta say that much can happen in the next 7 years. Also, don't bet your plans on getting a "stable staff position" ever. I dont think such a thing exists anymore. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but I do want to let you know how busy (an...

AMEN My friend who does interviews for his bank says the same. And besides, it just makes sense!

I can see why people would take offense to looking down on asking "that question." If we havent asked, then we've at least thought of it over the course of our rigorous curriculums. But I must say that I got a different message from Dominic's post... I dont think his intention was to state...

True... I suppose to remedy that problem, the MFE program would have to break the stats into 2 groups: Fall 2009 grads, and Winter 2009 grads, and report the career stats separately in a timely manner. Given that the stats were posted about a month or so ago(March 2010), the longest that any...

The MFE career stat seems like its stellar by any standard. Also considering that CU MFE has a large class size in comparison to many programs, the 92% actually says alot more than a comparable percentage from a program with less people. Im just not sure why the MFE program is considered weak...

When it comes to the CU MSOR, I think its important to acknowledge that it can be an incredible waste of time/money or an incredible opportunity. Its really up to you. It may be a cash cow, but it doesnt mean that the program cannot lead you to success in the financial world. There seems to be...

I think the negativity is directed towards the "other" programs in Columbia... MFE on the other hand is great in content and recruitment. I think the negativity stems from the fact that some programs are kinda misleading in terms of career prospects and education content (not specifically...

You should look at some of the discussions in this forum regarding CU MSOR and Mich FE. A general comparison would be some obvious things like MICH MSFE requires 1.5 yrs with 39Credits, while CU MSOR requires 30 Credits and can be competed in 1 yr. MSFE at UMICH is purely an FE program...

Sarcasm? No need to be snarky. Im merely presenting a case in point; that it IS possible to go into IB from MFE/MAFN... just not a usual route. Besides, Financeguy may be right about FE grads being promoted faster because they understand the real-picture behind the numbers. Who's to say...

I know a friend who is in investment banking after she graduated from a MAFN program. She started as a senior analyst and made associate last year. She was always complaining how she never does anything relevant to what she learned at school lol. go figure. Im sure that MFEs and MAFN people...

In some cases though, the teachers will not let you join a class due to over crowding. That is the risk you take. Depending on the year, or semester, there may be more crowding or less which will usually determine the decision. Just keep that in mind.

Youre right about the MFE core courses being exclusive... but from what I have read and seen at Columbia, you can always fit yourself into classes by talking directly to teacher and getting signatures. An insiders secret i suppose, but it really comes down to how much youre willing to risk and...

Sounds like a new area of MBA with concentration in engineering :-k I'm not convinced. Engineering is rigorous and nothing can really replace raw knowledge of such subject. It seems like a marketing strategy by Stanford to get a bigger pool of unique applicants. Maybe they're just too tired of...

Winston, Thankyou for your response. I had no idea that the ability to talk to girls was a prerequisite to a successful quant career lol. But youre absolutely right about the social skills piece... the ability to talk and work with collegues effectively usually stems from a person's social...

Hello everyone, Although there is an army of aspiring quants out there armed with MFEs and MSMFs, I am sure that many do not always get the purely quant position that they seek. Not only do they compete amongst eachother, but the super quants like the PhDs in math and science, also add fuel to...

RohithE... I think the most recent review is by a student who graduated this past summer. Check out the Education section of QN and you should see a review on the Columbia MSOR program. From what I can gather, it seems like the MSOR is great if youre looking for flexibility to personalize a...

Hello everyone, I ran into a website called www.ibtraining.com as I was searching for programs to gain some job-specific skills. Apparantly, the "Investment Banking Institute" offers day-to-day banking skills needed for analysts and associates in IB, private equity, hedge funds, etc. Looks...

If the MAFN career services is not very helpful or effective, how effective is the "do it yourself" method? Do you see it working generally? More specifically, do you get interviews and calls when you send out resumes to companies? Thanks your your input.

Im on the same fast track mindset as well. I was an International Relations major at a big name College but my gpa is not even worth mentioning. However, that was 6 years ago. When I apply to MFE/MAFN programs this winter I will have completed Calculus courses, Linear Algebra, grad level...

Thanks for the replies. I think I found what I was looking for.

More specifically... I am interested in meeting the general finance background requirement for the Baruch MFE prerequisite through self study. A book in finance that covers a broad area of topics with moderate details would prolly suit me. I was able to find a few on amazon, but I was...

Hello. I also have the same problem with the lack of finance education but heavy on math/statistics. Im thinking about studying on my own in this area. Is there a particular text that you can recommend? Thanks

The lower bound for the starting salary has shifted significantly to the plus side. Are there any significant or relevant reason for this? Im curious. Thankyou.

Ok thanks. Its good to see a Columbia MAFN student/grad finally.

Hi. I was wondering if you speak from experience. Are you or have you been a Columbia MAFN student? I ask since in some of the other discussions, it seems to suggest that the Columbia MFE, MSOR, and MAFN students all receive generally the same career help or "facetime" with the companies... the...

You'd think someone would have caught it earlier being that this is a quant aka "the smart guys" forum haha. Good catch Andy. I had to think about it for a bit too.

Hello everyone, This question is directed to all the grads in FE or MAFN in the industry. Im sure for some FE/MAFN grads, their career paths divulge from the obvious quant-career once they start looking for jobs. How often do you all see FE/MAFN grads taking positions in areas other than...

Thanks for the reply... I was actually counting on you to answer since you graduated from the program. The reason I ask is because I had heard about it being possible in the MAFN program a few yrs back...

Columbia MSOR class requirements? Hi, I'm interested in the MSOR program at Columbia and have researched their website for information. Although I couldnt find an answer to one question: Does anyone know if certain high level (4000's) math/statistics courses I already took at Columbia can...