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<blockquote data-quote="luso" data-source="post: 8279" data-attributes="member: 66"><p>I have to make it clear, I am talking about things in general, not just CUNY.</p><p>A lot of things are not just "heard on street" but personal experience.</p><p> </p><p>Funding mainly refer to GOV grants.</p><p>Yes, there are private/corporate grants, donation, etc. however, the sources are not very stable.</p><p>For most of the colleges, public grant is the most important means. </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">There are plenty of data about research funding on internet. At least I recall 2 or 3 years ago, when I read a report by IEEE, in terms of funding, DOD, NASA, DOH/CDC, DOEnergy are on the top give funding agency list. In general, you can see natural science, life science and engineering PhD students are getting far more financial support than those PhD students in liberal arts, language, humanity, social science programs. Why? Because some programs can get funding easily compare to others. Of course there are always exceptions. And those are well related to a particular school’s financial condition, fund raising, reputation, outside connections, etc. If you Google online, you can find a lot of scholarships for advance degree in math, engineering, or medical/health research (excluding MD programs), or natural science. How often you will find scholarships for MBA, MFE, Business, Law, Finance studies? It pretty much reflects the topic we are talking about.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Yes, I agree those are pretty heavy words. Once again, I am not trying to imply the majority of the schools nor any particular schools. But, what I said does happen in schools across the country. Remember, 60% of every year’s new PhD holders are not born in US. That pretty much tells why in many cases, faculties like to keep their students in the lab longer than the average 4-year study period. It used to be a lot of foreign students in engineering or hardcore science programs got their green card almost the same time they got their degree (this has been changed significantly after 2003 since US Gov tighten up the process due to 9/11 incident.). That also tells why often students “choose” to study longer period of time. Anyway, it is a fair game, faculties and students both get what they want.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Regarding the language requirements, please see the following link:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> <a href="http://math.gc.cuny.edu/program/requirements.html" target="_blank">Mathematics Ph.D. Program at CUNY</a></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I am not sure about how other school does it. At least when I was accepted into the CS PhD program, the student handbooks (2004/5 version) says you need to pass the exam in Russian, French, or German. They will accept Japanese too. The idea is other than English, most of the research papers in Math or Computer areas were written in those four languages. PhD students need to be able to read paper from foreign resource. Nowadays, most of the papers are in English, I doubt the need of the language requirement. Also Google can help you too. LOL</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="luso, post: 8279, member: 66"] I have to make it clear, I am talking about things in general, not just CUNY. A lot of things are not just "heard on street" but personal experience. Funding mainly refer to GOV grants. Yes, there are private/corporate grants, donation, etc. however, the sources are not very stable. For most of the colleges, public grant is the most important means. [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]There are plenty of data about research funding on internet. At least I recall 2 or 3 years ago, when I read a report by IEEE, in terms of funding, DOD, NASA, DOH/CDC, DOEnergy are on the top give funding agency list. In general, you can see natural science, life science and engineering PhD students are getting far more financial support than those PhD students in liberal arts, language, humanity, social science programs. Why? Because some programs can get funding easily compare to others. Of course there are always exceptions. And those are well related to a particular school’s financial condition, fund raising, reputation, outside connections, etc. If you Google online, you can find a lot of scholarships for advance degree in math, engineering, or medical/health research (excluding MD programs), or natural science. How often you will find scholarships for MBA, MFE, Business, Law, Finance studies? It pretty much reflects the topic we are talking about.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Yes, I agree those are pretty heavy words. Once again, I am not trying to imply the majority of the schools nor any particular schools. But, what I said does happen in schools across the country. Remember, 60% of every year’s new PhD holders are not born in US. That pretty much tells why in many cases, faculties like to keep their students in the lab longer than the average 4-year study period. It used to be a lot of foreign students in engineering or hardcore science programs got their green card almost the same time they got their degree (this has been changed significantly after 2003 since US Gov tighten up the process due to 9/11 incident.). That also tells why often students “choose” to study longer period of time. Anyway, it is a fair game, faculties and students both get what they want.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Regarding the language requirements, please see the following link:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [url="http://math.gc.cuny.edu/program/requirements.html"]Mathematics Ph.D. Program at CUNY[/url][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am not sure about how other school does it. At least when I was accepted into the CS PhD program, the student handbooks (2004/5 version) says you need to pass the exam in Russian, French, or German. They will accept Japanese too. The idea is other than English, most of the research papers in Math or Computer areas were written in those four languages. PhD students need to be able to read paper from foreign resource. Nowadays, most of the papers are in English, I doubt the need of the language requirement. Also Google can help you too. LOL[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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