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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pardasani" data-source="post: 2339" data-attributes="member: 96">Okay this may sound rebellious, but in my opinion we don't really need any course in C++ ... I think that time could be better utilized learning other skills maybe some statistics, maybe some more numerical techniques, maybe some databases, maybe even a course in algorithms.... The way I think is that we do  * A LOT * of programming in other courses: pde's and numerical algebra for eg... As Joe pointed out very well if everyone does his or her own share of we would have learnt a lot of C++.... And that's the best way to learn any language: by actually implementing and practicing with it... for eg, I never understood the need for copy constructors, but I learnt it the hard way when I got serious errors in my matrix library J What we can do is probably have a requirement that all incoming students be aware of the basics of oop and state that all codes (for eg the matrix library) must be implemented in an object oriented manner... I understand that not everybody comes in with a programming background but then we have the refresher courses to help out such students....  </blockquote>