5 Reasons Why Every Single College Ranking Is a Pile of Crap

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5 Reasons Why Every Single College Ranking Is a Pile of Crap - The Consumerist

Almost weekly, it seems, consumers are introduced to yet another annual ranking of the "best," "worst" or "biggest party" colleges in America.

US News & World Report produces the most widely-read college rankings, but Forbes, The Princeton Review, and several other publications have produced their own rankings. The problem is that every single one of these rankings is just absolutely, completely, and totally full of crap.

This probably isn't the smartest thing to say for my career as someone who writes about colleges, but whatever. Let's look at just a few examples of the problems with these rankings:

1. College rankings are often based on opinion and not actual data
US News & World Report is now producing a list of schools that have the "best undergraduate teaching." How did they do that? According to their description of their methodology, the magazine "asked top academics as part of the regular U.S. News peer assessment survey to name the schools that they think have faculty with an unusually strong 'commitment to undergraduate teaching.'" Got that? They measured the quality of teaching at one school by asking people who work at other schools how good the teaching is. It would be like basing the Fortune 500 on just the opinions of other CEOs instead of things like revenue and profit.

2. Rankings can be based on factors that have no demonstrated impact on academic results
Many college rankings - including US News & World Report - rank colleges based on the proportion of faculty who are full-time. The problem? According to a report from The Delta Cost Project [PDF], "in higher education, in contrast to K-12, there is no consistent research showing that access to full-time faculty pays off in greater student learning, student retention, or degree attainment." Oops.

3. The benefits of attending a more selective college might very well be canceled out by the benefits of attending a less selective college
Most of the major college rankings are based in part on selectivity: either by looking at the acceptance rate or by looking at the high school GPAs and SAT scores of students. But a savvy student might be better off attending a school with a bunch of students who are dumber than he is. Why? A recent study of law school grads found that the correlation between class rank and salary is stronger than the correlation between school prestige and salary. "Under-matching" - that is, attending a law school where you're smarter than many of your classmates - is likely to result in better grades and a better class rank and a higher salary. Princeton economist Alan Krueger has theorized that this phenomenon may explain why students who get into elite colleges but attend less elite colleges earn as much money as students who attend elite colleges. Krueger found that students who graduate seven percentile ranks higher in their class tend to earn about 3.5 percent more money.

4. Rankings that look at career earnings fail to consider the aptitudes of students
Payscale Inc. gained a lot of press when it published a ranking of colleges based on a return on investment calculation: Taking the earnings of graduates and comparing them to the sticker price of the colleges. The problem with this ranking is that it assumes that the only difference between an MIT grad (the #1 ranked school by return on investment) and a Black Hills State grad (which Payscale ranked dead last at #852) is that one went to MIT and the other went to Black Hills State, and that the return on investment has nothing to do with the talents or intellect of the students.

5. Real experts -- as opposed to people trying to sell magazines full of car ads -- who look into this stuff have realized you can't compare colleges in any meaningful way
In September 2005, Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings convened a meeting of 19 top education experts to study college accountability and outcomes. The study reported that colleges provided "no solid evidence" of their value that consumers could use in comparing one college to another.

But the largest problem with all these college rankings and guides is this: A student's success or failure in college and in life will ultimately be determined by who they are, not which college they attend. Successful people attended all kinds of colleges - only three CEOs of the top 20 Fortune 500 companies attended "elite" colleges, and 12 of the top 20 attended public colleges.

5 Reasons Why Every Single College Ranking Is a Pile of Crap - The Consumerist
 
Finally an intellectual analysis of university education.

This is what makes most quant job ads stupid to me. They say things like "PHD in quantitative subj. from top 10 school"... I always thought a PhD was about the level of the research done by an individual. I also hear people say I want to do Phd at school X because I can work under professor Z. Logic suggests that famous professors may very well be too busy to waste their time 'lending you their intelligence.' If you sit in a cave somewhere and study string theory for a few years on your own, you can be as good or better than someone who thrives on the name MIT or Harvard. This does not mean that going to these renowned schools means you can not be good, but it suggests that the converse is not necessarily true. If you go to these schools, it is not necessary that you are good. There are too many factors.
 
ehhhhh...

But the largest problem with all these college rankings and guides is this: A student's success or failure in college and in life will ultimately be determined by who they are, not which college they attend. Successful people attended all kinds of colleges - only three CEOs of the top 20 Fortune 500 companies attended "elite" colleges, and 12 of the top 20 attended public colleges.
False. It's not black and white like that.

The education of the top 20 CEOs on hte Fortune 500 is hardly a significant statistic to support the author's claim. Show me the stats the show the relative 'success' of all grads by school and ranking to support the statement. Oh. wait the author's premise of why rankings are bunk is the same answer: it is not comparable or quantifiable completely in a way that gives an objective answer.

Pretty weak conclusion. I think most people are smart enough to realize is that the rankings are not perfect, but if everyone agrees to use it as a benchmark, then it is what it is, 'fair' or not. It's like describing the entire field of Quant Finance, or Black-Scholes. There is no perfect solution, but somehow standards and methods get generally accepted for the purpose of moving forward.

So you can either be aware of that and work with it, or choose not to. If you choose not to, your path may be more difficult, but yes in some cases may be more fruitful. MAY. Disagree with rankings or not, the authors seems to imply that the rankings mean absolutely nothing, which is completely false.The author may prefer to walk around blindy, but a reasonable attempt at measurement is still better than nothing.
 
Great post, but whenever I read the consumerist I lose a little faith in the intelligence of humanity. Their posts tend to be anti establishment IMO. They are also not focused on finance like we all are. Sad, but true fact is rankings are important and whether research can prove it or not, going to a very selective and well known school will pay off more than a little known school.

Whenever I see articles like this I always imagine someone railing against the system, hoping and praying that logic will overrule individuals preconceived notions about different schools. I would be that people who hate rankings are individuals who did not go to a highly ranked school.
 
hey this is not such a bad idea. If you can convince the smart students to go to NYU-Poly or to IIT-Chicago, this would free up a lot of seats at Berkeley, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT. I sure hope this strategy works.
 
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