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Master of Science UZH–ETH in Quantitative Finance, Opinions and Placement Outcomes?

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What do you think about the Master of Science UZH ETH in Quantitative Finance? I’ve heard it’s quite rigorous on the math side and very well regarded in Europe, but I’d love to hear opinions from people who actually studied there or know the placement outcomes.
 
We should get a few reviews from UZH ETH alum coming shortly. From what I'm told, it's a great program but with low visibility outsize of Switzerland/Europe.
Students told me the employment law makes it impractical for non-EU students to gain employment there. As a result, many of them find employment in UK or elsewhere in Europe.
 
What do you think about the Master of Science UZH ETH in Quantitative Finance? I’ve heard it’s quite rigorous on the math side and very well regarded in Europe, but I’d love to hear opinions from people who actually studied there or know the placement outcomes.
I study there currently. I would agree with you, it's a very hard program if you didnt do math in your undergrdad. If you can work in the EU or Switzerland you will have a lot of opportunities, otherwise its really hard. If you have any other more specific questions feel free to ask.
 
We should get a few reviews from UZH ETH alum coming shortly. From what I'm told, it's a great program but with low visibility outsize of Switzerland/Europe.
Students told me the employment law makes it impractical for non-EU students to gain employment there. As a result, many of them find employment in UK or elsewhere in Europe.
That’s surprising .. I honestly thought Switzerland would be easier than the U.S. for post-grad employment. Didn’t realize the work-permit process was that tough for non-EU grads. Also thanks a lot for the resources!
 
By the way, @Andy Nguyen @vlakectomaz what do you think this master’s rank would be if it were included among the U.S. programs? I personally expect it would fall somewhere around #8–10, considering the math rigor and reputation in Europe.
 
@Andy Nguyen One last thought.. I’d actually suggest framing it as a “UK & Europe” ranking rather than only the "UK". Programs such as Paris-Sorbonne / École Polytechnique and UZH-ETH are not to be neglected in the quant industry, as they can genuinely compete with the Oxford MSc (ranked #1 in the UK) of technical depth and research strength.
 
When we rank programs, we request an extensive amount of data which many UK/Europe programs are not equipped to provide. They are good programs for sure but for now, I would rather focus my limited resource on getting as many reviews from people like @vlakectomaz as possible.
Let's see how it takes to get at least 10 reviews from each program.
 
I think the strengths and weaknesses of this program are both very clear. It’s not suitable for everyone, but if its advantages happen to match what you’re looking for, then it’s an excellent program.

1.The schedule is highly flexible, you can complete the degree anywhere from 1.5 to 5 years.
2.You have great freedom in course selection, even if you don’t take any classes in a given semester to do an internship instead, that’s totally fine.
3.(Favorite point) The tuition is very low. Almost negligible compared to MFE programs in the UK or the US.
4.It’s a dual-degree program between UZH and ETH, supported by UZH’s Department of Finance and ETH’s Department of Mathematics. The curriculum is comprehensive.
5.You can take courses from any program at either university, from machine learning and reinforcement learning, to highly theoretical math courses, to traditional finance courses like investment management. Some students even choose courses such as football data analysis, art history, purely based on their interests.
6.The students in the program generally have very strong undergraduate backgrounds, typically the top of their cohorts from top universities around the world, including Cambridge, Princeton, and Politecnico di Milano.
7.The program enjoys high recognition in the Europe. Alumni often organize gatherings, and the network is very strong.
8.The cohort is highly diverse in terms of nationality. Students come from all over Europe, as well as from countries such as China, India, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, Lebanon, and the United States, etc. Each year, around 50–60 students are admitted.
9.The courses are extremely difficult and highly theoretical, somewhat disconnected from market needs. That said, they do provide an excellent foundation if you plan to pursue a PhD.
10.The integration between finance and mathematics is not very strong. The math courses are purely theoretical, while the finance courses don’t take into account students with a math background. Around 90% of the class consists of math students, so it’s common to have trouble following the finance courses at UZH. On the other hand, some ETH math courses assume students have already studied advanced topics like functional analysis, something rare in MFE programs in the UK or the US.
11.There are few industry-oriented courses or projects; most of the content is very abstract and theoretical. As a result, you might complete a year of study without having any practical, industry-related projects to put on your CV.
12.Regarding job prospects, the Swiss job market is small and highly competitive. Moreover, visa restrictions make it quite unfriendly to non-EU students. However, it is relatively easier to find opportunities in Germany. Before the pandemic, most non-EU students were able to stay in Switzerland after graduation. However, since the pandemic, it has become much more difficult. It seems that only a few non-EU students have managed to stay in Switzerland, while the others have gone to places like Germany, Netherlands, London. For most non-EU students who wish to stay in Switzerland, the chances of entering major banks such as UBS, ZKB, or BNP are almost zero, partly because these positions usually require proficiency in German or French, and partly due to visa restrictions. Those non-EU graduates who do manage to stay in Switzerland typically start their first job at a small company or a startup, and only after gaining some work experience and securing a proper work permit do they move on to larger firms.
13.The career-oriented atmosphere among students is rather mild. Unlike MFE programs in the UK or the US, there isn’t a strong collective focus on job hunting, and you often feel like you’re fighting the battle alone when looking for positions. In contrast, the academic atmosphere is quite strong, with roughly one-fifth of non-EU students continuing on to pursue a PhD. In addition, the program requires a six-month, 30-credit master’s thesis, which sets a very high academic standard, which is quite different from the thesis requirements of some programs in the UK. However, this also makes it very time-consuming and can delay one’s entry into the industry.
 
@wlaenog Thank you so much for this incredibly detailed review.. honestly, you explained things I never knew and would probably never learn otherwise. I really appreciate the time you took to break everything down. This helps a lot.
 
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