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Choose MIT.

It's interesting at how both universities have similarities. I would call Imperial the MIT of UK.

Imperial MSc Math and Fin: more for quant roles, of course. Very hard course. Their courses are more theoretical/pure math. Imperial will try to place you in an industry internship with your dissertation. Their program director is well known with strong connections. Well done for getting an offer.

Good stuff: math fin at imperial is well known in UK. Career service is amazing. their modules are good.

Downside: 7 core modules and 5 electives from october to april, then exams. then dissertation until september. You will really work lol. London salaries are bad relative to cost of living. The stories I heard about Imperial are discouraging and you will feel like you're in hell. If you want that then please be my guest.

MIT MFin: you can choose concentrations and you will be surrounded by truly amazing people. course isn't as pure math heavy and more relevant to finance. Imperial is more on quant. MIT's MFin is under MIT Sloan School of Management - it is at its base more on finance. MIT Sloan is part of the M7 Business schools.

Good stuff: to follow on from the reviews, it's MIT. Boston is a cool place, european like. Career services are amazing. You can choose an 18 month course, which gives you time to learn stuff in greater depth. US universities are generally easier than their UK counterparts (but why do people go to US colleges? because the universities are more prestigious, which is what matters most). The people you meet at MIT will be amazing. Network with them. Be their friends. You never know, they may start billion-dollar mc companies and may get you a job one day. With US universities, your top aim should be to network. Networking gets you jobs. Hard programs bring you tears.

Downside: courses can be crowded with others but it's alright. Tbf they have double the cohort as imperial. MIT is more expensive. Some have said it's a certificate course lol...but it's MIT. You are paying for the name, the prestige, the network. Boston does not have as big of a financial center as London but as you said, you will be back in London, so it shouldn't matter.

Overall I say MIT because of the name and opportunities at your doorstep. At the end of the day, no one cares how hard you work. Sorry to say that but that's life. Employers don't care how difficult a course is. Imperial has good name but MIT has a better name and you can achieve your goals by working less. Remember, you are trying to get a good job to pay your bills, not flex on people that you did a hard course.

At this time, UK is not good. Economy is not great and has not been great for 17 years. It is moments like this you need to stand out. MIT > Imperial.

Also you did not specify what type of trader so I assumed you just wanted to be a tradfi guy.

I hope you get into MIT. If you do, only look back to London for jobs, as you stated since it's what you want.
Thank you so much for your response. Definitely some very good points for MIT. Only thing that kind of bothers me is --
- I feel like London is a better city than Boston (both from a lifestyle perspective and from a networking standpoint)
- I feel like Imperial in London is nearly as well regarded as MIT so I'm not sure the added value of MIT is that much but I don't really know.

Anyways thank you so much for your insights.
 
I'm an Indian and have got an interview invitation from ETH Zurich for their MQF program. I wanted to ask, how much easy are employment opportunities post the degree? I couldn't find any data points. I'd to let go of my UC Berkeley MFE Admission this year because of financial constraints ( I come from a low middle class income family ) and some negative reviews from UCB Alumini. ETH Zurich MQF seems cheap but I'm having double thoughts now on employment opportunities.

Current background:
Tier 1 IIT CSE Graduate from India
Currently working as a Quant Strat Associate at a BB (~3 years of Experience)

I'm wondering if I should wait for an year and apply to UC Berkeley again or go with ETH Zurich.

My motivation is to move outside India. I'm fine with both Europe or USA but don't want to do a degree that can impact my employment opportunities afterwards. Can someone share light for a non EU citizen how's the scene of employment for ETH Zurich grads?
 
Thank you so much for your response. Definitely some very good points for MIT. Only thing that kind of bothers me is --
- I feel like London is a better city than Boston (both from a lifestyle perspective and from a networking standpoint)
- I feel like Imperial in London is nearly as well regarded as MIT so I'm not sure the added value of MIT is that much but I don't really know.

Anyways thank you so much for your insi
Hi,

You are right to point out the London vs Boston thing. Lifestyle wise, London is arguably the 2nd best in the world; for a student, it is the best *student* city in the world, if you have money. Networking wise, at the face of it, you are right to point out that London is better at that standpoint, however there's 3 things to note here:

1. If you choose to study at Imperial, it will be harder to network outside of their prepared company presentations because you will spend lots of time academically doing MSc Math and Finance. Unless you already have previous experience (internship/full time), you will be adding extra stress to find a job while doing your academics. Imperial is a "live, breathe, and die for your program" sort of thing, unless you go to the business school, which is easier.

2. American universities are prime for networking, that's what university is about in America tbh. In US Colleges, you will need to network and so you will for sure nurture that skill while London . Sure, I agree that Boston < London You learn more practical and relevant skills in American colleges, which you can then take back to London. Practical skills and networking are much more important. Also at MIT, your lecturers will be full of people who have worked (or are still working) in huge institutions. Imperial does not give that opportunity as much as MIT does.

3. Going to Imperial MSc Math Fin won't give you a lifestyle lol.

To your point about Imperial being as well regarded as MIT in London:

1. I agree to an extent with this sentiment. I know people in London who has said that Imperial is ranked no.1 in the world despite there being no ranking to suggest so. In the usual case that Imperial is no.2, MIT is the one that is no.1, based off QS rankings. I would not look too much into rankings. I would look more into the networking opportunities and relevant knowledge to learn.

2. Imperial has, realistically, only been relevant for 10 years at best, and that's mainly because of it's QS rankings. Without that ranking, it does not have that much of a talking point. It is not that sort of thing that people for generations have been talking about. Not like oxbridge, hypsm, and the other ivy leagues. Not even LSE. Reputation in finance wise, Imperial is not even on par with LSE when it comes to finance. I was wide awake when UCL was ranked and considered better than Imperial, until Imperial overtook them only recently.

3. MIT will add greater value to your CV. As the quantnet saying goes, "it's MIT". You never hear that with Imperial. Not even with Oxbridge.

4. Course wise, at Imperial you may be forced to go quant because the things you learn in that program is not as applicable in tradfi. Quant is a whole different level and based off what you said, I assume you don't need it. Might I add you learn these quant courses at MIT, just choose the Financial Engineering or Capital Markets concentration. You will learn these while not going through the hellish (and honestly unnecessary) rigors of Imperial.

Remember: you are trying to get relevant skills and a top university name to get a job to put food on the table. Telling people you did a hard course at imperial won't put food on the table. It will put tears of suffering and maybe mental health problems instead. Take the potential opportunity to be away from the UK for 1.5 years. Refresh your mindset and gain real skills, not flex about the Girsanov Theorem. Come back with an MIT degree and make sure you dominate the City of London.

...and who knows, with an MIT degree, you may even start your own company in the future :)
 
Might be an unpopular opinion but I’d vote for Imperial especially for quant positions. MIT has great reputation, #1 in the world ofc, but that reputation is largely due to their undergraduate and doctorate education. I think recruiters will look at the specific program that you’re in, not just your school’s name. And I don’t think MFin and Sloan in general are in the same level of prestige as other MIT programs. (Also those corp finance courses?)
My opinion might be a little biased tho because I’m more of an engineer so anything business school related/ hosted in a business school tends to give me the ick lol 😂
Also, are you a US citizen? Do you wanna work in the US after graduation? Because moving from UK to US for work is much harder than the other way around.
 
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Hey everyone! I was fortunate enough to be accepted into both these prestigious programs and want to decide between these two universities. After comparing final costs (includes living costs + tuition - scholarship) UChicago would be cheaper by about 25-30k for me. I wanted to gather input on whether it is worth picking CMU over UChicago and what factors lead to the differentiation between the two. For context: I am okay with the Chicago weather (used to the weather) and I will not be taking any loans to fund my masters (however, the 25-30k will be a bit of a strain on my finances). I appreciate your input! I would love to hear any nuanced opinion as I have done my preliminary search online and talked to a few students from both the universities. Thank you in advance!
 
Congrats on getting 5 admits and scholarships. Thanks for sharing them on the Tracker. That's all the contribution we ever ask of our members.
It's a good problem to have picking between the two.
The important question you don't address: what do you want to get out of the program so people can see which one is a better fit for you.
Look at the curriculum, courses, instructors, support that put you on that path.
 
Hi all,

I’m deciding between CMU MSCF and CBS MSFE and would love some advice.

I’m not entirely sure if I want to do quant long-term, but I’m considering a career in PE or Hedge Funds, ideally in fundamental or macro investing. I enjoy investment strategy and decision-making but still want to leverage my technical skills—just not in a purely quant role.

Here’s how I see each program (correct me if I’m wrong):

CMU MSCF – Stronger career support, especially in quant finance, with structured recruiting and practical courseworks. But I worry it leans too much toward quant trading & systematic investing, which isn’t exactly my focus. It’s also more affordable in terms of tuition and living costs.

Columbia MSFE – The coursework seems more aligned with my previous backgrounds and my interets towards PE & fundamental hedge funds, but I’ve heard mixed things about job placement and career support. I couldn’t find 2024 placement data, so I’m unsure how strong the buy-side recruiting is.

Overall, my biggest concerns are:
  1. Which program has better buy-side placement for the field other than pure quant?
  2. Will CMU limit my chances of breaking into PE/Macro roles?
Would love to hear from alumni or anyone with insight. Thanks!
 
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Hey everyone! I was fortunate enough to be accepted into both these prestigious programs and want to decide between these two universities. After comparing final costs (includes living costs + tuition - scholarship) UChicago would be cheaper by about 25-30k for me. I wanted to gather input on whether it is worth picking CMU over UChicago and what factors lead to the differentiation between the two. For context: I am okay with the Chicago weather (used to the weather) and I will not be taking any loans to fund my masters (however, the 25-30k will be a bit of a strain on my finances). I appreciate your input! I would love to hear any nuanced opinion as I have done my preliminary search online and talked to a few students from both the universities. Thank you in advance!
Hi, congrats on the offers! I am currently in the same boat, I have an admit from UChicago with a 37.8k scholarship and no scholarship from CMU. I am unsure about which one to choose. I am currently leaning towards CMU due to their reputation and their more comprehensive curriculum. But on the other hand UChicago also seems like a very good program and 35k is a pretty large amount so I'm wondering if CMU would be worth that extra cost. But I suppose if I am able to land a good job after graduation it wouldn't be too much in the long run. After graduation I am hoping to land a front office quant research role, it seems like CMU would give me a better chance at that. If there are any members here who can give their inputs on this I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Even taking into account the scholarship, CMU has by far better career outcomes; $20,000 or $30,000 is the margin of error, so I would choose CMU without hesitation.
 
I am in a similar position. I would choose CMU without hesitation. I believe that choosing CMU will be a +EV move accounting for the first several years of my career.
 
Hi everyone! I have got an offer from UChicago MSFM with 20% scholarship and got waitlisted by CMU MSCF. CMU MSCF advised to look at current class profile and strengthen my application. I wanted to know what are the realistic chances of conversion from waitlist to being admitted? I kind of get the sense that the CV I submitted was bit off (I misunderstood when they said it can be 1-2 pages) and have an updated one (standard 1 page used for Jan submissions) with relevant projects and talking points. I also have completed advanced statistics courses since then and plan to do 1-2 more math ones as refreshers. At this point this is the only amendment I can make to my profile with the given timelines.
UChicago requires to respond by March 21 and Visa processing is also a time consuming factor with me being an international student. Chances of CMU MCSF process are looking pale and high risk and I am excited about UChicago after reading the reviews, curriculum and placements. I would very much appreciate all your inputs to assess this "tail" situation :) many thanks in advance!
 
Here is latest employment report from CMU MSCF (Dec 2023 grads). Read all the details, fine prints to find where their grads end up.
How many of these 91 students already had at least 1 internship before starting the MSCF? How many had full time experience before the MSCF? same case with UChicago MSFM.

Placements are one thing but those numbers may be skewed with the context that employers prefer those with experience already whether they be related or slightly unrelated experience.

It will be interesting to know if there were actually students admitted by CMU MSCF and UChicago MSFM who had nothing at all, got into these programs, and managed to get at least one placement (internship/job).
 
How many of these 91 students already had at least 1 internship before starting the MSCF? How many had full time experience before the MSCF? same case with UChicago MSFM.

Placements are one thing but those numbers may be skewed with the context that employers prefer those with experience already whether they be related or slightly unrelated experience.

It will be interesting to know if there were actually students admitted by CMU MSCF and UChicago MSFM who had nothing at all, got into these programs, and managed to get at least one placement (internship/job).
81% of CMU students had no full time work experience in 2024 according to the 2024 class profile…
 
of those 81%, how many had prior internship experience? (It's a lot easier to get placements with prior internships)
If you haven’t had an internship you have no chance of landing a higher end quant internship anyway (hedge fund / prop shop trading/research) to be honest with you. Having an internship is a very low bar. I don’t think students having an internship discredits CMUs placement if that is what you’re getting at.
 
If you haven’t had an internship you have no chance of landing a higher end quant internship anyway (hedge fund / prop shop trading/research) to be honest with you. Having an internship is a very low bar. I don’t think students having an internship discredits CMUs placement if that is what you’re getting at.
Usually, yes, but in the current market where a good amount of firms don't take in a lot of interns (say 10/2000 from my experience), those without internships/experience will be forced to go for a master's to avoid CV gaps
 
These are objective opinions from the data that CMU MSCF is superior to UChicago in various aspects.

- Rankings
As you can see from the QuantNet ranking, CMU is #3 behind Princeton and Baruch, but UChicago is #7.

- Carrier Outcomes
CMU has one of the strongest connections in New York (because CMU MSCF has a campus there), where top-tier funds and investment banks are most concentrated, alongside of Baruch, MIT and Columbia, so if you want a job in New York or Pittsburgh, CMU is your better choice. My friend also attended CMU New York campus and received an offer from a hedge fund. (The basic premise is that the market has been bad for the past few years, so employment results have been down everywhere.)

- Expected Salary.
According to official data, the average salary at CMU MSCF is $165,025, while UChicago MSFM is $134,285. If the scholarship from UChicago is $20,000 - $30,000, I will chose CMU. Because there is a $30,000 difference in just the first year, and this difference is compounded and widened every year if you can work in NYC, the financial capital of the world.

- Quality of Education
Regarding cohort size, CMU is 101 (NUC: 53, PGH 48) and Chicago is 153; CMU is more likely to have a higher quality education with closer distance to professors. Financial engineering professors are usually well-known practitioners in the industry, so connections with them are very important. Actually my friend I mentioned got a summer internship (and was subsequently hired) at HF in NY through a professor's referral and recommendation.
 
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