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Bonus Regulation in Europe

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As you know, there is a real concern about bonuses in Europe and especially in France. A

Bonus / Malus system has even be proposed by French President.

I consider that this debate is currently going too far, if we continue this way, there won't be

anymore bonus in Europe in finance.

What are your thoughts about this ?
 
In its final communiqué, the G-20 ministers called for “global standards on pay structure,” emphasizing long-term results in awarding pay and urging provisions to take back bonuses if bank profits tumble, known as “clawbacks.” They also suggested limits on guaranteed bonuses.

That was a setback for French and German ministers who had been pushing hard in recent weeks for a more concrete plan to address bonuses, amid rising public anger that just months after they were rescued, major financial institutions are returning to old habits and rewarding executives who take excessive risks.
Finance Leaders Back Continued Stimulus, but Limits on Pay Are Elusive - NYTimes.com
 
The European game on bonuses is driven by several factors representing incompatible national self interest. The short version is that any state that implements these measures fully will cripple its investment banking sector.

Since there is no plausible way to enforce them evenly, there will be a lot of words and a lot of cosmetics, but it is very hard to see measures that have any effect other than to improve the job prospects for compliance staff.

Recall that the EU has free movement of labour, so to put it in an American context imagine if in New York state bonuses were limited to (say) $ 0.5 MM and that above this, your pay could be clawed back or your bonus cut to zero.
But not in New Jersey or Connecticut... ?

Actually it will be worse than that, since the courts will be involved big time.
What is a "fair" claw back ? Imagine mulitple legal systems playing with that.
What is a "risky" investment. 3 years ago, lending a few million to Lehman would have been seen as so safe you would risk criticism for not working the cash hard enough.

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The European game on bonuses is driven by several factors representing incompatible national self interest. The short version is that any state that implements these measures fully will cripple its investment banking sector.

Since there is no plausible way to enforce them evenly, there will be a lot of words and a lot of cosmetics, but it is very hard to see measures that have any effect other than to improve the job prospects for compliance staff.

Recall that the EU has free movement of labour, so to put it in an American context imagine if in New York state bonuses were limited to (say) $ 0.5 MM and that above this, your pay could be clawed back or your bonus cut to zero.
But not in New Jersey or Connecticut... ?

I'm not sure. Here in Norway the man heading the Oil Fund (~$300bn) makes a measly $1m a year (if memory serves). In theory he could look for a job elsewhere -- but I'm not sure Germany or France would give him a correspondingly senior job. Freedom of movement of labor exists theoretically in the EU but there are practical obstacles (such as reluctance to hiring other EU nationals or language problems).
 
Fed Considers Sweeping Rules to Regulate Pay at Banks

By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
WASHINGTON The Federal Reserve is preparing what would be the most sweeping rules yet to regulate the pay at banks across the country, people close to the discussion said on Friday.

The rules would apply not just to the pay and bonuses of top executives but also to traders, loan officers and other employees. But rather than focusing on the specific amount employees are paid, Fed officials will be scrutinizing whether the structure of compensation, like the use of bonuses based on the volume of loan origination, encourages excessive risk-taking.

The proposed rules were reported on Friday by The Wall Street Journal.

The rules are not expected to be ready for several weeks. But the central bank is expected to invoke its authority as a regulator monitoring the safety of the banking system and soundness of banks decisions.

The surprising move comes as both the Obama administration and the Congress, as well as governments in other industrialized countries, are pushing for restrictions on executive pay, which many experts have cited as a contributor to the reckless risk-taking and the financial crisis of the last two years.

The Treasury Department already has a team led by Kenneth Feinberg that is examining the pay packages at banks that received money under its $700 billion bailout program. Congress is pushing for broader regulations that would apply to all financial institutions.

Fed officials are expected to have a two-tiered system of supervising pay, using different approaches for about 20 of the nations biggest bank holding companies on the one hand, and for thousands of medium and smaller banks on the other.

The biggest money-center banks would get the closest supervision, though Fed supervisors would give individual institutions considerable flexibility in how they design their compensation plans.

The big bank holding companies, like JPMorgan Chase or Goldman Sachs (which converted itself into a bank holding company at the height of the crisis), would present their compensation plans to Fed supervisors, who would then evaluate each plan to see if the pay incentives properly balance goals of short-term sales and production against long-term risk-taking.

Bank supervisors would have the authority to demand changes in the pay packages, and they would monitor pay practices to make sure they conformed with what the banks had pledged to do.

For smaller institutions, Fed officials would issue supervisory guidance on the principles that banks should follow in designing their compensation programs.

The Fed program would come on top of what Mr. Feinberg at the Treasury Department is already doing to scrutinize pay at major financial institutions. Mr. Feinberg has authority over executive pay only at companies that have received money under the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, and he has the power to veto pay packages only for the most highly paid executives at the seven distressed institutions, like American International Group, Citigroup, Bank of America and General Motors, that received exceptional assistance.

For the thousands of other banks that have received federal government help under the TARP program, Mr. Feinbergs role in reviewing their compensation plans is largely advisory.

By contrast, the Fed program would affect about 5,000 bank holding companies as well as state-chartered banks. It would reach down much more deeply into the operational levels of a bank, setting rules for mid-level traders, mortgage loan officers and office managers whose pay is tied to revenues generated by local branches.

People familiar with the proposed rules said they are not intended to address questions of fairness or even the balance struck between management compensation and shareholder earnings.

The Fed chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, has long maintained that his primary concern has been the structure of incentives rather than the absolute amounts of compensation. The key issue, he has said, is whether compensation plans reward excessive risk-taking by placing too much emphasis on short-term revenue production rather than the long-term soundness of the company.

Fed officials, in discussions with bank supervisors from other countries as well as with industry executives, have identified several ways in which they expect banks to reduce incentives for excessive risk-taking.

Supervisors will be looking to see if banks are adjusting rewards, such as commissions, to account for higher levels of risk in the particular activity. They will also be looking for programs that defer compensation for several years, or that defer the calculation of the exact compensation long enough to provide the time for true risks of an activity to surface.

But while the goals of the new regulations will be straightforward, their actual implementation is certain to be devilishly complex.

Fed officials have apparently decided that the differences between compensation for top executives and that for other highly paid employees like top traders are so great that they cannot come up with their own rules for the biggest and most complicated institutions.

Mr. Feinberg at the Treasury is grappling with that same problem as well in evaluating the pay package for the head of Citigroups Phibro unit, which trades commodities and has been one of the companys biggest profit sources. The head of Phibro is supposed to receive about $100 million, a staggering amount that is tied to the profits his unit has generated.

The Federal Reserves move to restrict pay comes at a time of fierce political debate about the Feds failure to rein in reckless mortgage-lending and the proliferation of disastrously risky financial instruments at the height of the housing bubble.

In Congress, Democratic critics of the Fed, like Senator Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, want to strip the Fed of its authority to regulate consumer lending practices and oppose President Obamas proposals to expand the Feds authority as a systemic risk regulator.

But Republican critics on the right are attacking the central bank as well, charging that it has accumulated far too much power during the financial crisis and become too autocratic in telling banks what to do.

In addition, an unusual alliance of left-wing Democrats and right-wing Republicans has joined in sponsoring a bill to allow the Government Accountability Office, Congresss investigative arm, to audit the Feds monetary policy decisions a move that Fed officials fear would reduce their political independence in setting interest rates.

That bill was introduced by Representative Ron Paul, a libertarian Republican from Texas who has campaigned for years to abolish the Federal Reserve and has just published a book entitled End the Fed.

In recent weeks, the Federal Reserve has labored mightily to revamp its image as a hands-off, industry-friendly regulator that cared primarily about saving feckless financial institutions and little about curbing bad practices.

On Tuesday, Fed officials announced they would begin examining mortgage-lending practices at both banks and non-bank lenders in order to enforce its new rules against abusive and deceptive mortgage-lending practices. Consumer groups, while welcoming the new assertiveness, have nonetheless sharply criticized the Fed for doing what it had already been authorized to do since the early 1990s.

Fed Considers Bank Pay Limits - NYTimes.com
 
BigbadWolf:I'm not sure. Here in Norway the man heading the Oil Fund (~$300bn) makes a
measly $1m a year (if memory serves). I

As a HH I meet a lot of people, and I find some very smart civil servants working hard for pitiful money. Britain is almost unique in allowing non-nationals surprisingly senior roles. There would be no problem with the Norwegian doing the same job the the British government. Being Norwegian and therefore presumably white he could get mid level but not senior jobs in Germany or France. In the US of course he wouldn't be allowed to work in any worthwhile government job at all.

There is a structural problem in all governments with pay, where the job can be paid far more in the private sector.

Being head of a serious outfit has its own attractions, a friend of mine has a job title that sounds like it came from The Lord of the Rings, but earns about the same as a two year experienced quant.

But what about more junior people who do the actual work ?
 
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