Sadly, Harvard does not have a quant master program. Yet. You can get a degree in basket weaving, though.My point is, if I'm only looking for a name recognition, I'd spend that 80k to go to Harvard.
Outside of Canada no one knows UdeM, let alone the rest of the world.Still, +80k is too much.
No one knows about CMU up here, so let alone the rest of the world. lol
At this price I rather buy a house in Miami
I don't care about the name recognition, as long as I know that what is being teached is the same materiel.Outside of Canada no one knows UdeM, let alone the rest of the world.
(or any other school in Canada that ISN'T McGill)
Maybe the 1st and 2nd job, but then, you're on your own.Brand names have the ability to more easily open doors that wouldn't otherwise be open to you.
''McGill is consistently ranked among the top universities in Canada and worldwide. In the Maclean's 20th Annual University Rankings, McGill was the top-ranked in Canada among all institutions offering medical and doctoral degrees, maintaining this ranking for the sixth year in a row. In 2010-2011, the QS World University Rankings placed McGill first in Canada and 19th in the world, while the Times Higher Education World University Rankings placed McGill third in Canada, 26th in North America, and 35th in the world; in terms of reputation alone, the latter ranking placed McGill 29th in the world.'' - WikiAs for McGill, ranked 18th in the world, in what and by whom? But I digress...
This is your perogativeI don't care about the name recognition, as long as I know that what is being teached is the same materiel.
The material and textbooks may be the same. The access to professors, research, career services and alumni base may well not be. Again, one is permitted their own discretion to assign appropriate value to these.Especially when you can have the exact same classes for 10k (instead of almost 90k).
From my experience attending a 'tier 2' MBA who landed on Wall St. intentionally (albeit haphazardly), this 1st and 2nd job can have a huge impact on your future career. I had enough savings and a US citizenship to weather the storm of 07-09. The few b-school colleagues of mine who were able to fight their way to Wall Street are no longer here.Maybe the 1st and 2nd job, but then, you're on your own.
The point I was trying to make is that using a generalized ranking for the sake of an argument makes for a flawed argument.''McGill is consistently ranked among the top universities in Canada and worldwide.
Well, the name recognition is based on those rankings.The point I was trying to make is that using a generalized ranking for the sake of an argument makes for a flawed argument.
Andy, which one you would prefer to recommend , online or part-time or on campus program. taking into account what your experience in finance world.This is sort of breaking news
- Starting officially in Fall 2012 but a few applicants can apply for Fall 2011
- Costs around $82K (25 courses times $3,228/course + fee)
- Can participate in live telecast + access to the same recorded video as regular students
- Have access to career services remotely.
- Can travel to NYC/Pittsburgh for internship interviews
- Need at least 2 years of relevant work experience
No, for that price of tuition, they give you the same diploma so you can "hide" the fact it was online. However, on your resume if you have work experience at the same time as your MSCF program, then what are you going to say in your interview? You have to admit it was online...I must say that although I think the CMU brand name is worth quite allot , not rolling the savings back to the clients is rude.
On CMU side the costs of an online course are much lower yet they charge full price.
I was probably try and admit if the costs were lower.
BTW, what will the diploma say? MSCF ONLINE CMU?
Not exactly.No, for that price of tuition, they give you the same diploma so you can "hide" the fact it was online. However, on your resume if you have work experience at the same time as your MSCF program, then what are you going to say in your interview? You have to admit it was online...
Yea what you are saying is theoretically true, but practically it is another matter. In the UChicago case you just mentioned, that interviewee can simple say what he did.Not exactly.
CMU offers their MSCF program both in Pittsburgh and at their center in downtown Manhattan, where classes meet simultaneously (late afternoon/evening) and are connected by video link.
You could pursue their program part-time in either place.
Thus, it is possible to obtain the CMU degree while still working full-time in New York (or, perhaps less likely, in Pittsburgh.)
The online option opens it up to people who are located farther away (as their website indicates, you have to "Live more than 50 miles from the Pittsburgh (15213) or New York MSCF (10004) campus" in order to be eligible for their new online option.
Indeed, one need not live anywhere near the location of an academic program in order to complete that degree, even where class attendance is required.
I know of someone who did an MBA at University of Chicago while living, and working full-time, in Los Angeles. For several years this individual took a "red-eye" flight from L.A. every Friday night, arriving in Chicago very early Saturday morning. Classes met all day on Saturday. Afterwards: straight to the airport for a Saturday evening flight back home to California.
Would you infer (incorrectly!) that this person had somehow obtained an "online" MBA from U. Chicago because the resume simultaneously indicates full-time employment in California at the same time as the MBA studies?
Finally, let's look at another issue: age discrimination (which is illegal in the USA, though it may be permitted in other jurisdictions.)
While I understand that in certain other countries it is customary to include your date of birth on the resume, it is NOT customary to do so in the USA. While employers may presume that they can estimate your year of birth by subtracting 22 years from the date of your undergraduate degree, there is no rule (in the USA) that says that you must indicate, on your resume, in what year you obtained your various degrees.
Individuals who are older than the norm may thus find it in their interest to omit such dates from their resume. This prevents being screened out (before being invited for a face-to-face interview) based upon age, which a US employer cannot do explicitly. Of course, an individual recruiter or hiring manager might do so "unconsciously".
I have a friend who received a Ph.D. from a top-tier Ivy-League university in 2008. However, this friend's undergraduate degree was conferred about a quarter-century earlier. If that date were included on the resume, prospective employers would infer (correctly) that this person is almost 50 years of age.
Where would recruiters at prospective employers route such a resume? More likely than not, directly into the (digital) dustbin, well before being selected for an interview.
Indeed, after removing the date on which the Bachelor's degree was concerned from the resume, as well as early career experience, this friend found prospective employers to be far more receptive.
If asked (by an interviewer in the USA), "When did you get your degree", an appropriate response would be,
"You aren't trying to determine my age, are you? Because age-discrimination in the USA is illegal, and you know that you are not allowed to ask my age as part of this interview process. Be assured that I do possess all the degrees listed on my resume, and if you do offer me a job and I accept it, then as part of your background-verification procedure, I'll be happy to supply further details, including the dates on which each of my degrees was conferred, so you can confirm everything."
Thus, you can't infer from someone's resume that his/her degree must have been obtained online just because of simultaneous employment at a geographic location distant from the educational institution; indeed, the candidate could omit altogether the date on which his/her degree was conferred.
I doubt you will see any official numbers for this.I'll wait till I see the placements from people who take it online to see how employers perceive the online degree.