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[CasanovaJ]

Oh really? Thank you for showing me how friendly Americans are.

And by the way, your comment was actually legitimately racist

 

[CasanovaJ]

Then your comment was actually legitimately shameless.

That doesn't even make sense...

 

[Reyn S]

You're an idiot.

No offense, but maybe next time you should come to Europe or UK, and see what they feel when you speak your native American English. It's the same story.

 

[CasanovaJ]

No offense, but maybe next time you should come to Europe or UK, and see what they feel when you speak your native American English. It's the same story.

Europeans love Americans-- we're the coolest country on earth. (y)

 

[CasanovaJ]

Really? At least for me, someone who refuse to apologize when s/he offended a group of people because of the prejudice is really shameless.

I said absolutely nothing prejudiced, and consider myself to be one of the most shameful people on the planet.

Edit: that one doesn't sound right...

 

[Reyn S]

Europeans love Americans-- we're the greatest country on earth. (y)

Oh, really, seems that you've never been here yet, it's really different from what my friends say. Spare some time, go around the world, that would be really helpful for you. And by the way, no doubt the US is the greatest country, but it's no way because of you, you are just someone make it negative.

 

[CasanovaJ]

How many Chinese students have you talked with? 2? 3? You said they could not speak English because they spoke Chinese to each other. But the French students also speak French to other French students, and you don't feel uncomfortable at all? This is not prejudiced? Then what is prejudiced?

The French have been hands down the coolest people in the program-- they can speak any language they damn well please.

 

[IntoDarkness]

I think I know who you are from your Italian ID.
Sorry to be a Chinese students being fluent in both English and French. I will show this to all the Chinese and French students, and I think they will help me figure out whether I overacted or not.

tbh, this is a weak move

 

[CasanovaJ]

well, I won't. He just made me too angry about it.

I apologize for making you angry-- hopefully we can agree that friendliness is a good thing. (y)

 

[Reyn S]

I apologize for making you angry-- hopefully we can agree that friendliness is a good thing. (y)

Wow, that's the deal.

 

[mhy]

Wow, this went downhill fast.

But I think this is not language-or nationality-specific, it would happen with any large group of people from similar circumstances stuck together in a foreign and unfamiliar country. It would make sense for them to interact mainly within the group - they share common ground and a common language. I have seen groups of Americans and British come to study abroad in Japan and 90% of the time they hung out with other Americans and Brits.

It's very annoying and sometimes downright offensive (I've had multiple occasions where I was the only person in a table who didn't speak X language (I've had it happen several times with multiple nationalities/languages) and despite my best efforts to get a conversation in English going, I failed miserably), it seems almost like human nature to me.

CasanovaJ, Re: your observations about Chinese students, I have seen this phenomenon both in undergrad and grad school, as well as outside of school. But I think this is just another case of my point above. It just so happens that many MFE programs have 50%+ Chinese enrollment. Replace "Chinese" with any other nationality and you will likely see the same thing.

 

[CasanovaJ]

Wow, this went downhill fast.

But I think this is not language-or nationality-specific, it would happen with any large group of people from similar circumstances stuck together in a foreign and unfamiliar country. It would make sense that they interact those they share common ground and a common language with. I have seen groups of Americans and British come to study abroad in Japan and 90% of the time they hung out with other Americans and Brits.

It's very annoying and sometimes downright offensive (I've had multiple occasions where I was the only person in a table who didn't speak X language (I've had it happen several times with multiple nationalities/languages) and despite my best efforts to get a conversation in English going, I failed miserably), it seems almost like human nature to me.

CasanovaJ, Re: your observations about Chinese students, I have seen this phenomenon both in undergrad and grad school, as well as outside of school. But I think this is just another case of my point above. It just so happens that many MFE programs have 50%+ Chinese enrollment. Replace "Chinese" with any other nationality and you will likely see the same thing.

I'm graduating in a week and a half, and almost just inadvertently managed to start a race war -- I'll be posting a review for MAFN, then moving on from this site.

It's been a pleasure, QN... keep it real

 

[C S]

Wow, this went downhill fast.

But I think this is not language-or nationality-specific, it would happen with any large group of people from similar circumstances stuck together in a foreign and unfamiliar country. It would make sense for them to interact mainly within the group - they share common ground and a common language. I have seen groups of Americans and British come to study abroad in Japan and 90% of the time they hung out with other Americans and Brits.

It's very annoying and sometimes downright offensive (I've had multiple occasions where I was the only person in a table who didn't speak X language (I've had it happen several times with multiple nationalities/languages) and despite my best efforts to get a conversation in English going, I failed miserably), it seems almost like human nature to me.

CasanovaJ, Re: your observations about Chinese students, I have seen this phenomenon both in undergrad and grad school, as well as outside of school. But I think this is just another case of my point above. It just so happens that many MFE programs have 50%+ Chinese enrollment. Replace "Chinese" with any other nationality and you will likely see the same thing.

I agree its not solely language. Some of it is cultural but some cultures emphasize the group more. This leads to over-reliance on the group which can lessen skills and ultimately job opportunities.

 

[CasanovaJ]

Also I'm glad to see that somebody edited all his comments and changed the words that are offensive.

I believe you also did a bit of editing, and deleted your comment where you vowed to track me down and get me lynched-- thank you for that.