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Intrusive Salary Question

CGiuliano

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So I'll understand if nobody wants to respond to this thread, but I've seen various quant job salaries and it is pretty hard to draw some representative mean from the batch. I've seen 80K/yr all the way up to 2.5mill/yr....? :-k

If anyone wants to share any insight on starting salaries/what they have made/what they make/where they think their salary is headed, that would be insanely awesome.

Thanks :D
 
I am not an expert to give an outlook for the future. But it will depend on multiple factors: aptitude, specialization of work, career path, the specific firm you are in as well as the economic cycle.
 
It's up to you whether to trust the salary survey this site did.

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I am not an expert to give an outlook for the future. But it will depend on multiple factors: aptitude, specialization of work, career path, the specific firm you are in as well as the economic cycle.

I would add luck as a factor.

Andy- What classifies an associate? Also, what is with the whole base/bonus thing. Your base is what you sign on for and the bonus' are dependent on your performance?
 
Sometimes you sign for the bonus too (as in X% of what you bring in).
 
While there is ample historical data that can help us infer what an MFE grad can expect to earn out of graduation, I find that it's often tough to extrapolate that number to the years going forward. Sometimes, all it takes for you to rake in big numbers is just being in the hot group that's earning massive fees. (And, remember, often times placement in groups are really arbitrary -- you get placed where an empty seat is available).

Also, pay close attention to the graph that Andy brought you from a well-known finance message board; as you rose among the ranks in a financial institution, your compensation package is dominated more by the bonus component rather than the base component. However, from my experience, at the higher ranks the bonus component is strongly determined by your ability to bring business to the firm (more fees! consequently, this statement is less true for S&T). That is, an MD should not only be a technical specialist that knows very well the product he is selling, but also able to close out deals by convincing customers to source business to his/her firm. At that point, probably your communication ability plays a role more important than your stochastic calculus knowledge.

To that end, I find the compensation variability increases greatly beyond a certain point. As your mix of work changes from purely technical into a combination of technical and managerial, some of us make the leap into the dark political realm of directors where the bonus pot is bigger. The ones who cannot play the game of office politics, stay as specialists. This is not to say that you cannot make big bucks without undertaking a managerial role.. but I often find that it's tougher to do that since this means you have to be always making the next awesome model, or killing the markets year in year out.
 
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