DominiConnor
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It is an interesting fact that regardless of culture or race (whatever you mean by race), by far the best predictor of the educational outcome of a child, whether that child is male or female.
The exact correlation of course varies by group, but the correlation is always there.
That gives us a good predictor for a society as a whole, and we note that failed societies tend not to educate women, which leads to inferior children of both sexes.
American education is of course sexist, but it is less sexist than many with which it competes, and the US has a highly respectable % of female graduates. A fact that should inspire a healthy dread in religious leaders.
My friend Aaron Brown when he wrote The Poker Face of Wall Street, has formed a hypothesis that games like poker which reward efficient risk management have been critical to the success of the US, though of course this has little to do with the input of mothers.
Since so many here are Americans, the E concept is of course absent. Good parenting is not an objective term, and must be evaluated in the context of an environment, like any other evolutionary factor.
I would take particular exception to the idea that non-white people can't be engineers, which depending on your left/right political position is some factor of genetics or education.
America has never produced many excellent engineers, you might even argue it has produced almost none, if you define "produced" as entirely made in America.
America's space progam was largely German, electronics were pretty much brought up by Italians and Brits, and together with a few Germans gave the world nuclear energy.
Note I say America's space program *was* German. It ain't German any more and doesn't work anymore either.
I am caustic about British cars, but when I encounter most US cars they seem to be the product of 80s Soviet engineers, built by 1960s Indians.
There are people like Edison of course.
Hold that thought...
He was a product of the Victorian education system used in most of Western Europe, the British Empire and the USA. So were the Wright brothers, the engineers who built the first tank, the first electric dynamo, first radio, Radar, and pretty much every critical invention you can think of.
So what educational therem unites these people ?
Yep, rote learning.
Maybe there's a bit of a correlation between system and getting useful people, but I don't see it as causality.
More important is whether smart people are spotted and brought forward, and a society that rewards successful thinking.
China hasn't had a culture like that for over a thousand years, so it's not suprising that for >500 years no useful idea of any kind has come out of 1/4 of the human race.
But as a above, female education in China is not especially sexist, and education us valued. Indeed almost all cultures value education more highly than the average native born American.
The exact correlation of course varies by group, but the correlation is always there.
That gives us a good predictor for a society as a whole, and we note that failed societies tend not to educate women, which leads to inferior children of both sexes.
American education is of course sexist, but it is less sexist than many with which it competes, and the US has a highly respectable % of female graduates. A fact that should inspire a healthy dread in religious leaders.
My friend Aaron Brown when he wrote The Poker Face of Wall Street, has formed a hypothesis that games like poker which reward efficient risk management have been critical to the success of the US, though of course this has little to do with the input of mothers.
Since so many here are Americans, the E concept is of course absent. Good parenting is not an objective term, and must be evaluated in the context of an environment, like any other evolutionary factor.
I would take particular exception to the idea that non-white people can't be engineers, which depending on your left/right political position is some factor of genetics or education.
America has never produced many excellent engineers, you might even argue it has produced almost none, if you define "produced" as entirely made in America.
America's space progam was largely German, electronics were pretty much brought up by Italians and Brits, and together with a few Germans gave the world nuclear energy.
Note I say America's space program *was* German. It ain't German any more and doesn't work anymore either.
I am caustic about British cars, but when I encounter most US cars they seem to be the product of 80s Soviet engineers, built by 1960s Indians.
There are people like Edison of course.
Hold that thought...
He was a product of the Victorian education system used in most of Western Europe, the British Empire and the USA. So were the Wright brothers, the engineers who built the first tank, the first electric dynamo, first radio, Radar, and pretty much every critical invention you can think of.
So what educational therem unites these people ?
Yep, rote learning.
Maybe there's a bit of a correlation between system and getting useful people, but I don't see it as causality.
More important is whether smart people are spotted and brought forward, and a society that rewards successful thinking.
China hasn't had a culture like that for over a thousand years, so it's not suprising that for >500 years no useful idea of any kind has come out of 1/4 of the human race.
But as a above, female education in China is not especially sexist, and education us valued. Indeed almost all cultures value education more highly than the average native born American.